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Poster: reviewr Date: Oct 8, 2011 6:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anybody else get that 'Spanish Jam' was a cheap take on Ravels Bolero ?

I believe Spanish Jam comes from Miles Davis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmo2Pv1DWyI

There are some real similarities.

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Oct 8, 2011 8:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anybody else get that 'Spanish Jam' was a cheap take on Ravels Bolero ?

Did Miles Davis rip-off Ravels Bolero?

Good selection, great artist!

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Oct 9, 2011 12:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anybody else get that 'Spanish Jam' was a cheap take on Ravels Bolero ?

Rips off? No.

Miles pays homage to Ravel.
GD pay homage to Miles.

Vanilla Ice rips off Queen & David Bowie.
Barney the Dinosaur rips of "This Old Man".

There's a difference.

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Oct 9, 2011 12:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anybody else get that 'Spanish Jam' was a cheap take on Ravels Bolero ?

Homage is a good term, however, in the world of art, artist's are inspired by others work to the extent that copy-catting is prevalent, not to say that borrowing a rythmic theme is such a blatant rip-off.

Look at how many British and American rock bands took the material of Willie Dixon and Muddy Waters and made a shitload of cash in the 60's and 70's!


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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Oct 9, 2011 1:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anybody else get that 'Spanish Jam' was a cheap take on Ravels Bolero ?

And look how many times Led Zeppelin paid out royalties under the table, but still admit no wrongdoing. When you use other people's work and refuse to admit you did, it's a rip off.

And yes, the Grateful Dead did both. They "ripped off" Mystic Eyes by Van Morrison and Them (AFAIK, they never admitted the taking of it for Caution), but they paid homage to Buddy Rodgers in earlier versions of IKYR.